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Which are correct:
1-Tall, Jane managed to reach the top shelf.
2-Tall, she managed to reach the top shelf.

3-Jane, tall, managed to reach the top shelf.
4-She, tall, managed to reach the top shelf.

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None, IMO. I mean, correct grammar, however atrocious style.

I'd say no comma:

Tall Jane managed to reach the top shelf.

The rest are just grammatical pirouettes.

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This is an example of proper style, with commas:
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A farewell to justice: Jim Garrison, JFK's assassination, and the case that ...‎ - Page 3
by Joan Mellen - History - 2005 - 547 pages

Stern and square-jawed, six feet three inches tall, Jane demanded of the teacher, "Where's my Earling?"

http://books.google.com/books?...%22tall,+Jane%22&lr=
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As I've told you, IMO sequences of multiple adjectives, separated with commas from the noun, are just better accepted by the reader than the lone adjective.

You won't find too many, if any, examples with
"Tall, Jane"
in published books:
http://books.google.com/books?...22&btnG=Search+Books
especially without logical connectedness, but if you find one, pls tell me and show me the complete link.

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However, the reader would probably accept something more logically connected:

1 - Tall, Jane lost all this advantage by/with the ugliness of her face.

2 - Tall, Jane also was beautiful to boot.
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I'd rewrite all your sentences with "being":

1. Being tall, Jane managed to reach the top shelf.

The lone adjective, separated with commas, survives better this way, IMO.

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A marriage settlement: Modeste Mignon and other stories‎
by Honoré de Balzac, George Saintsbury - 1901 - 778 pages
Page 19

Being tall, she could at will assume the port and dignity of a queen. Men were ensnared by her conversation, as birds are by bird-lime, for she had
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Yes, I like 'being tall,' or 'being so tall,' or 'being very tall.'

'Tall,Jane' is not natural and it is jarring.
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Thanks a lot Jerry. I really appreciate your going into all this trouble.

And as usual, thank you Rachel.

How about:

1 - Tall, she lost all this advantage by/with the ugliness of her face.

2 - Tall, she also was beautiful to boot.

3-She, being tall, could at will assume the port and dignity of a queen.

I have only replaced Jane with 'she' in three of your sentences. Do they still sound natural? I think they sound better with the noun, but I can't tell whether they are acceptable or not with a pronoun instead of the noun.

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