It was the first time ...(past simple or past perfect)

Hi,

In some references like "Practical English usage", we find "the past perfect"  not {the past simple} used in with such expressions:

It was the first , the second ...etc + a subject + had,P.P. However I've found this sentence in our text book:  It was the first time that Egypt WON three bronze medals since 2004.

Is it a correct sentence?! 

Is there any reference that mentions it?!it was

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ayman posted:
Is it a correct sentence?! 

Is there any reference that mentions it?!

Hello, Ayman,

The punctuation ?! is informal and should be used sparingly, for special meaning, not in every question you write. By the way, I have deleted your "complain" thread. You should not assume that because one day has passed a question will not be answered. We aren't paid to help you and are not at your beck and call.

I did see your question yesterday and chose not to answer it at the time, in hopes that one of my colleagues would instead. The reason I didn't answer it is that I didn't want to tell you that, yes, it is incorrect, but that that doesn't make it an ungrammatical sentence. The sentence would simply be better with "had won."

The sentence "It was the first time that Egypt (had) won three bronze medals since 2004" implies that, at that time, the following sentence was true: "Egypt hasn't won three bronze medals since 2004." As you can see, the present perfect is used in that sentence. Since-phrases generally call for the perfect.

First, I was taught to thank whoever helps me, so thank you for your help.

Secondly , when I wrote "complain", it was just to draw your attention.

Thirdly, if you had read this "complain", you might have found out that I thought I had made a mistake or violated one of your rules, so you shouldn't assume that " I treat you as if you were under my beck and call as you mentioned."

*regards 😊

 

ayman posted:

First, I was taught to thank whoever helps me, so thank you for your help.

That makes me feel so good, Ayman. You feel obligated to thank me.

ayman posted:

Secondly , when I wrote "complain", it was just to draw your attention.

You succeeded. Congratulations. And please don't ever do it again.

ayman posted:
Thirdly, if you had read this "complain", you might have found out that I thought I had made a mistake or violated one of your rules, so you shouldn't assume that " I treat you as if you were under my beck and call as you mentioned."

How could you possibly think that you had violated a rule by asking this question? I understood your "complain" post as whining and nothing more.

Regards.

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