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Hi,

How does "the very pattern of the late Victorian clergymanf" relate to the rest of the following sentence? It's from War Game by Anthony Price.

Musgrave himself frowned up at him out of a luxuriant frame of hair and sidewhiskers and beard, the very pattern of the late Victorian clergyman.

I'd appreciate your help.

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I agree there is an exception to every rule, but rules are still helpful in practice, although It is not unusual there may occur some delayed appositives, however, semantics more often than not plays an important role in determining whether any linguistic phenomenon is correct or not.  Just like the sentence "The commander stood his ground, a heroic figure,"  it is very obvious that "a heroic figure" cannot but be in apposition to "the commander." because it is semantically wrong to say "a heroic figure" is in apposition to "his ground.

Hi, Raymond,

I agree with f6pafd. In the second sentence you mentioned:

The commander stood his ground, a heoric figure.

the delayed appositive occurs after a verb phrase, so it needs to refer to the subject.

In your original sentence:

Musgrave himself frowned up at him out of a luxuriant frame of hair and sidewhiskers and beard, the very pattern of the late Victorian clergyman.

"the very pattern of the late Vitorian clergyman" is syntactically in apposition to the noun phrase that precedes it. However, since "Musgrave" is identified with the features appearing in the predicate, from a semantic viewpoint we could say that, by transitive property, if Musgrave was characterized by a luxuriant frame of hair, sidewhiskers and beard, and this was the typical pattern of the late Victorian clergyman, then Musgrave followed that pattern.

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Musgrave himself frowned up at him out of a luxuriant frame of hair and sidewhiskers and beard, the very pattern of the late Victorian clergyman.

Hi, everybody—I wish I could find the passage online. Since I can't see the surrounding text, I will simply say that I think it is possible for "the very pattern of the late Victorian clergyman" to be connected to "Musgrave" syntactically.

A different type of apposition from normal NP-to-NP apposition may be in play here. We could be looking at a "predicate appositive" (a term I take from George Curme's grammar).

Alternatively, or equivalently, we could be looking at a quasi-copulative construction, such as that found in "He was brought up a Lutheran, but died a Baptist."

The predicate appositive, or delayed quasi-copulative sentence-ending predicational whatchamacallit, reminds me phrases like "the spitting image of his father," which could easily appear in that position after an intransitive VP:

  • He looked up at me with his big blue eyes, brown hair, and inquisitive gaze, the spitting image of his father.
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